maybe because JWdom was invented here! :)
I agree. I think it's because Russell got his religious influences here and launched it here.
hi all, i came to this site a few months ago looking for some advice regarding my involvment with a jw girl, i was under the impression that love was the most important thing in a relationship and that we could get around the whole 'she's a witness and i'm not' thing, the responses i received soon cleared my head of those thoughts!
i've since made the break with elizabeth and feel so much better, although it was a painful thing to do, i still bump into her every once in a while and receive an endless stream of jw literature and invitations to various gatherings in the post, the latest being a three day convention, i read the stuff and become more convinced with every one that i've done the right thing.
i'm still trying to work out how otherwise intelligent people can be sucked in by this bs, i hope one day that she may see the light, not so we can get together but because she's a great person.
maybe because JWdom was invented here! :)
I agree. I think it's because Russell got his religious influences here and launched it here.
the end of may my daughter and i were walking an overgrown path to the river, going to take pictures of each other in the wild roses, when we saw this--right at the edge of the path:.
"mommy, look," she said.
"oh no," i thought.
So sweet and beautiful. Thank you for sharing
i've got a jw meeting with me every week.
she's been coming for 4 months.
i don't want to give up on her.
I voluntarily left after, well, 38 Years. I truly believed but eventually I realized that something was wrong. They didn't disfellowship me, I just slowly stopped attending meetings over a number of years. I was getting very suspicious of the headquarters in Brooklyn. The Witnesses are totally spoon fed information by their Governing Body in Brooklyn. They will not dispute anything they have been taught as they have been taught Brooklyn gives them all their spiritual food and the Governing Body is appointed by Jesus and Jehovah. (They always have scriptures to back up all of this). In 1975, "They" convinced their congregation members around the world that Armegeddon was coming, but when it didn't they denied everything and blamed it on the over-zealous people in the congregations. They keep changing rules about blood transfusions and what is allowed and not allowed. They discourage their members from getting an education. They won't allow divorce unless a spouse commits adultery or you get abused so badly, you have to prove it to them. The "They" I am referring to is the Governing Body. There are plenty of other examples, but basically you have to do what "They" tell you to do, or else. If you don't, you can be disfellowshippped and your family can never speak or have anything to do with you again. If you do, you will be disfellowshipped too. If you are not one of Jehovah's Witnesses or get thrown out of the congregation, you will die at Armegeddon. If you don't go out and preach and get Bible Studies, you will be accountable for other people's lives. By the way, they have an internal campaign going (again) that Armegeddon is coming very, very soon. This keeps everyone scared and under control.
In short, I had a feeling I was brainwashed, and when I got out and looked back, I was right. So that's why I left.
You could ask her if JWs teach that everyone who is not a Jehovah's Witness will die at Armegeddon. If she tap dances around it, she is lying. Also, Witnesses are taught to get away from anyone that causes doubt in their mind, so be careful or she will drop you like a hot potato.
Please let us know how things are progressing. Every person that can get out of the control of Jehovah's Witnesses will have a better chance at a happier life and freedom to think spiritually for themselves.
two jws came knocking to my door.
instead of ingnoring the knock, i decided to answer.
with fixed smiles on their faces, one of the ladys offer me a flyer concerning the district convention.
I was in the org. from 1956 to 1983 - and they definitely expected armageddon in 1975 no matter how much they lie about it now.
I was baptized in 1968. You are absolutely right. They are bold faced liars and anyone that doesn't admit the 1975 disaster is lying to themselves and others.
http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=330&pid=3878&mode=threaded&start=0#entry3878.
i may be late, and it may have been posted before, but i just came across this site that seems to have many jws posting and it's an eye opener for sure.
i read many posts, and some posters are just a step away from being here.
Yes. I had been to this site a few times while I was lurking on this one and still researching the Borg to get out. I didn't like the other site because it was too pro-Borg. I had done too much research to listen to anymore Dub terminology and logic.
I feel bad for this woman being trapped. I didn't find her exact posting, but I hope those guys didn't pounce all over her and make her feel guilty. She defininately needs to be here.
in the 1950's i remember they used to say what they were disfellowshipped for, whether it be fornication, stealing, etc.
then it was disfellowshipped for "loose conduct", then "conduct not becoming a christian.
" then it was simply "disfellowshipped" or "disassociated.
In the 1950's I remember they used to say what they were disfellowshipped for, whether it be fornication, stealing, etc. Then it was disfellowshipped for "loose conduct", then "conduct not becoming a Christian." Then it was simply "disfellowshipped" or "disassociated." Now its "Brother/Sister *** is not longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses." Does anyone else remember it that way?
Yup...and there was a time you could send in a da letter and not be shunned...
I remember both of these. I didn't start going to the KH until 1967. So if it happened in the 50's, the elders in my congregation must not have been reading the letters from the Society. I remember some people used to cry after the announcement was read. I also remember when they stopped mentioning the reason behind the DF, and that led to a lot of rumor and speculation.
i have been df'd for around 4 years and have not got my back up about the org until this year.
only this last year have i been looking around for answers and started realising there is a foundation for my reasons of not going back.
at first i was happy that it wasn't because i was making excuses for not going back but bad things were happening outside of the people i know across the org.. what pissed me off the most (and the reason i found this site) is because i got the blame for my brother in-law having sex in my house with someone other than his wife (my sister) because i am not witness and thus have low standards.. i'll try to keep this short: i have 2 sisters, one brother and 2 parents (fancy that) both remarried however.
Good grief! This could be a script for a TV show! Sounds like these folks need to grow up a little. Hang in there.
well folks, got back from my trip to see russell's grave site.
it was quite a interesting experience and sobering to see the pyramid right by his tombstone.
i'm kind of tired and will be hitting the sack soon but i wanted to post a few pictures.
Thanks thecarpenter!
do household chores without the rush....... spend time with my little neice(now fatherless) without worrying..."i need to take her back home, i gotta study that wt lesson for tomorrow!".
hang out with my younger brother without thinking..."crap it's monday...that lesson in the "revelation" book ain't studying itself!".
visit my sister without thinking......."should i see her before the meeting or after field service?
Getting free has changed my life in so many ways. With each day that passes, everything becomes more enjoyable because you lose that guilty voice in your head saying that everything and everybody is bad. The gloom and doom that once ran your life is gone!
just reading frequent flyer miles on the subject of feeling guilty for having a happy marriage with a non-jw.. in our congregation which i haven't attended for about a year, i can only think of two or three who seem to be happy.
of course, i don't know what happens behind closed doors, but i know of several who admit they are unhappy.
i wrote out a long list of couples who have divorced over the last 20 years--including three elders (one is on his second divorce).
I only suspected one or two happy couples in all of my years as a Witness in different congregations. Most of the married couples are miserable and stuck. It's especially worse when they get married so young. I know several couples of all age groups, where the spouse just went ahead and committed adultry just to end the misery. Then they would work to get reinstated. It was very sad to watch and listen to.